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Kirk Cameron's 'Saving Christmas' Belittles Christians


On Friday, November 14, 2014 Kirk Cameron's "Saving Christmas" will be opening in select theaters across the country for only two weeks.

This movie is all about making fun of any Christian who doesn't think like or agree with Kirk Cameron and his company. According to Kirk and friends, one of the main purposes of "Saving Christmas" is to dispel the beliefs that most of our traditional Christmas practices e.g., decorating Christmas trees, feasting, mistletoe, gift exchanges, etc., are from pagan origins or fabricated myths about actual people who lived during the fourth-century—namely Saint Nicholas of Lycia, commonly known in the United States as Santa Claus.

"Our focus on December 25 came from the Roman holiday called Saturnalia. This was a pagan observance of the birthday of the unconquered sun. Saturnalia began December 19 each year...Many of our Christmas customs have their origins in Saturnalia, which was marked by feasting, parades, special music, gift giving, lighted candles, and green trees. As Christianity spread through the Roman empire, the pagan holiday was given Christian connotations."
~John MacArthur, The Miracle of Christmas, p. 50

From the Puritans in England during the 1600s to the early Puritans here in the States, celebrating Christmas in a pagan-like revelry was considered a sin and was therefore avoided altogether. Similarly, there are many Christians today who still hold this view and according to God, are free to do so. However, Kirk Cameron and his crew disagree and portrays the main character of this film, Christian White (Darren Doan) as one "who represents the typical white Christian male and he’s got a bad case of religious bah humbugs," because he feels common Christmas celebratory practices aren't about Christ, but about pagan and secular jubilees.

"One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor for the Lord and give thanks to God.

"The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin."
~Romans 14:5-6, 22-23 (ESV)

In the trailer, another character rejoices saying, "the scales have fallen off" when Christian White is convinced by Kirk Cameron's character that "Everything you see inside of there, it's all about Christmas. It's all about Jesus." Of course, what's in "there", that is, the house, is Santa Claus, feasting, gifts, a Christmas tree, gifts, etc.

The makers of this movie belittle those who remain steadfast in their beliefs to abstain from Christmas celebrations. And by default, encourage others to do the same. To ensure I was clear regarding one of the main purposes of this film, Darren Doan who not only plays the lead character, but also scripted, produced and directed the movie, tweeted this to me the other day, "but the film does make fun of Wannabe Berean [sic] unimaginative Christians who need to lighten up."




Furthermore, to make matters worse, Kirk purports his movie "provides a biblical basis for our time-honored Christmas traditions and celebrations..." When I first read this on the movie's website, and heard him say it on a Catholic radio program (Busted Halo) he was recently interviewed on, I was confused by which Christmas traditions he could be talking about. I hoped he just misspoke and actually meant his movie provides historical Christian traditions rather than actually claim our "time-honored Christmas traditions and celebrations" are actually found in the Bible. So I asked him.


Screenshot from "Saving Christmas" website


I contacted Kirk through his website and also talked to a mutual friend who had Kirk call me to discuss my concerns regarding these claims of "biblical basis" for all our Christmas traditions.

This was tough for me because I used to be one of those who "blindly" followed Kirk due to his former and faithful work for the Gospel between 2004 - 2011. So I asked Kirk again and more specifically, "When you said our time-honored Christmas traditions are biblically based, you didn't mean things like decorating Christmas trees, Santa Claus, exchanging gifts, etc. are actually in the Bible, did you? You just meant some may have historical Christian foundations, right?" To my surprise he answered, "No, I meant they're all in the Bible. I know, I was surprised too when I read it myself." Kirk also shared that Christmas trees represent the Cross of Christ. When I asked him for the chapter and verse for his claims, he said, "Well, I'd rather not tell you because it's in the movie and I want you to see the movie."

Thanks to Brannon Howse of Worldview Weekend, I'm able to share this 30 second audio clip (below) of Kirk's interview on the Busted Halo radio program that's hosted by a Catholic priest, Dave Dwyer. In this interview Kirk once again claims, "Saving Christmas...is all about understanding the biblical foundations to all of the celebrations and the traditions that we have at Christmastime; including everything from Santa Claus, to Christmas trees, to the nativity, to all the presents, to the celebrating and feasting and all that kind of stuff..."





Kirk and team are promoting this film as one that will frustrate atheists as he shared in his interview with TheBlaze“I assume they’re going to get frustrated to see some of their best arguments deflated by this movie, because we take on some of the most commonly parroted myths about the origins of Christmas.”

Unfortunately, I don't think this movie will so much frustrate atheists as it will injure Christians.

While my family and I do celebrate Christmas in many of the traditional ways, we don't however, bemoan those who abstain. We truly believe all that's in God's Word and since there's nothing in Scripture about whether or not one should or shouldn't celebrate Christmas, we do what God says in Romans 14, we leave this decision to each person's conscience.

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19 comments:

  1. Thank you so much for the Scripture! I believe as you do and took comfort in Romans 14 verses! Also, I'm disappointed in Kirk Cameron's switch. "Another one bites the dust!" comes to mind. Thank you for giving us another "heads up" and keeping us on our toes.

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  2. I've never cared much for Kirk Cameron, and therefore haven't followed him too closely. I will say that the "anti-Christmas" Christians are usually the most vocal and annoying i.e. NOT believing they should leave it to each person's conscience. The whole "red and white candy canes represent the blood of Christ" type Christians gave me the creeps when they first came on the scene many years ago. They are always lecturing people on the Pagan basis for Christmas and Easter etc. I've never seen or heard or personally met one who wasn't "in-your-face" about it.


    If you really want to, you can trace everything to paganism. They were here before us and they were here a long time. I've often believed that their souls yearned for God but they didn't know him yet so why are we so hard them? That's not to say that those who have heard and rejected the Word of God shouldn't be shunned (What fellowship has the light with darkness?); but if you lived 3000 years ago and celebrated Spring and never heard God's word, who am I to judge them?


    I also know a lot of people who are openly NOT Christians or "kinda" Christians who celebrate Christmas. And with Christmas under increasing assault, we don't need any more bashers jumping on the bandwagon.


    I don't think that was very nice of Cameron to tell you to "watch the movie." I mean we're talking about the Bible, not a Hitchcock plot.


    For many of us, our first experience with "Christians" who didn't celebrate these holidays was with Jehovah's Witnesses. They were the same ones refusing to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance and knocking on our door constantly and didn't leave a good taste in our mouths.


    However, I don't think there are any "Biblical foundations" for celebrating Christmas, so I am interested to see what the movie presents.

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  3. Many Christians treat Christmas as if it is one of the sacraments ordained by God. Christ is in baptism, communion, etc., but He is not IN Christmas because Christmas was not ordained by God. (And I realize in a lot of Christian circles that would be considered a blasphemous statement.) One can celebrate Christmas without Christ. Even though the claim is that Christmas is a Christian holiday, many non-believers celebrate it. I know of two families (one Jewish, one Hindu) who put up a Christmas tree, decorate, and give gifts because they consider it a cultural holiday. Their focus is on the secular traditions, of which there are plenty to enjoy. It's the same thing as Christian parents allowing their children to dress up and go trick-or-treating, decorating their homes, and making Halloween-themed goodies even though Halloween is a pagan/occult holiday. They participate in the secular traditions without believing in the pagan/occult beliefs.
    I agree 100% with your last paragraph. My family celebrates Christmas, although I tend to be more low-key about it than the rest. I used to get extremely irritated over the idol Christmas has become but now am comfortable following my conscience and letting others follow theirs.

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  4. I agree - I also acknowledged that many NON-Christians celebrate Christmas in my comment below. Still - it's an opportunity to spread the Gospel as we tell people WHY we are celebrating.

    The television broadcasts Christmas movies that have NOTHING to do with Christmas! Or they supplant Christ's birth with "the magic of Christmas." Reality is that every good thing there has ever been has been perverted in some way, and that includes Christmas.

    As a child, we always got presents (from Santa) when I was young, but it was the baby Jesus in the manger that truly mystified me and was the focus of our celebration.

    Elldee - have you read Peter Marshall's "Let's Keep Christmas?" It is a great commentary on the commercialization of Christmas and the focus being taken off of Jesus (though it was written in 1957!!!)

    Here is a link to the book if it's okay with Sunny that I put it: http://www.amazon.com/Lets-Keep-Christmas-Peter-Marshall/dp/0800791347/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413233933&sr=8-1&keywords=let%27s+keep+christmas+peter+marshall



    As I think about it, though I have not seen Cameron's Christmas movie, I am thinking that the approach to Christmas - in the sermon by Peter Marshall which I've just referenced - is probably more of a correct approach than Cameron trying to use the Bible to prove we *should* celebrate Christmas. Marshall presents why we *do* - not why we *should*.


    Wonderful subject. Thanks for letting me comment!

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  5. Hi there Susan, repentance is actually something that's in Scripture described as asking for forgiveness for a sin committed and turning from it. The first act of repentance is as you say, is directly tied to salvation. However, once saved, we're all commanded to continually bear the fruit of repentance (Matt 3:8). All sins are committed against God since the definition of sin is breaking God's law (1 John 3:4) and some sins are against God and one another (Luke 17:4) and we must be humble enough to admit we all continually sin (less and less hopefully) until we go Home and see Christ in His full glory. Thus, we must continually repent to God and others we've sinned against.

    If our sins are private and just between us and God, then our repentance will be the same. However, if our sins like public sins as mine (that I apologize for in this article) and also that of Kirk's who's is presently leading those who "follow" him down the false social gospel path, must repent both privately to God and publicly.

    This kind of Christian love and accountability, unfortunately, is rare these days. We neither like to publicly profess our public sins and ask for forgiveness, nor do we love one another to reprove one another with God's Word when we see each other sin.

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  6. You're most welcome precious sister Fran. I hate having to give out news like this, but I'm compelled to do what's most pleasing to the Lord and loving towards my brothers and sisters in Christ with all the means God's provided me.

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  7. Hi there precious sister Susan,

    Thank you for commenting and sharing your thoughts. While I appreciate and agree with some of the things you've said here, I would like to offer you a gentle reminder of my commenting rules noted on the right sidebar that details how all comments on my blog, whether they agree or disagree with me, must adhere to Ephesians 4:29-32, 5:4 and 2 Tim 2:14, 24-26.



    Your derogatory comments against those who choose not to celebrate Christmas is skimming the line and close to the ones I remove because though this may truly be your experience with those who abstain from Christmas celebrations, it's not productive nor beneficial (1 Cor 10:23-24) to air them out here in a public forum.


    I thank you in advance for your understanding and efforts to help me keep my blog pleasing to the Lord in every way (Ps 19:14). The Lord bless you sister.

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  8. Hi there precious sister Elldee,


    Very good points...yes, Christmas is not an ordained sacrament, but can often be treated that way, and we shouldn't. It is purely a matter of conscience for each Christian to decide for themselves as a faith declaration of love toward God whether it is celebrated or not.

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  9. Right after Brandon Howse aired his program with Justin Peters I saw an old article from WND. It was about a radio show that Ray Comfort was on promoting his book, "Hitler, God, and the Bible." In my mind, it really showed a good example how a Christian should do an interview with a host that doesn't agree with you.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/evangelist-leaves-celebrity-psychiatrist-tongue-tied/

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  10. Paul had to rebuke Peter when he was stepped away from the Gospel, He did to much talking with his brain instead of checking everything with the word of God and went to a works salvation.

    Galatians 2:11 When Cephas (PETER) came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. 13The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.14When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all, “You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?15“We who are Jews by birth and not sinful Gentiles 16know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

    Now Kirk on the other hand is dabbling in the god of this world santa clause and his movie seems to be focusing on the pagan customs of the world instead of solely on Christ . Remember if it the movie was focused on Jesus Christ and his people not many would want to see this movie because apart from the spirit of God people wont understand it and its boring to hear only about Jesus when your spiritually dead. Thats why they have to throw in worldly things in to stimulate the flesh in order enjoy something that only the spiritual mind can understand . its no different in my opinion than worshiping Baal.

    1 Samuel 7:4 So the people of Israel put away the Baals and the Ashtaroth, and they served the Lord only.

    1 Kings 18:21 Elijah went before the people and said, "How long will you waver between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him." But the people said nothing.

    Arron Crumbed under the pressure of large number of people. Kirk is doing the same thing

    Exodus 32:1 When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, "Come, make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don't know what has happened to him."Aaron answered them, "Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me."So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron.He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, "These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt."When Aaron saw this, he built an altar in front of the calf and announced, "Tomorrow there will be a festival to the LORD."

    If Kirk Belongs to the Lord and he dont repent of this pagan Christmas rituals then he will get a public chastening of some kind from the Lord ( I celebrate Christmas and give the gospel to the lost in my family and others in the street etc.but no Santa Clause or other nonsense ) .

    Hebrews 12:6 because the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son." Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father?If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons.Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of our spirits and live!

    If Kirk is not one of Gods people he will just use him to expose the goats among us in the Church of Gods people.

    In the mean time lets see what kirk does in the coming months and we will see if he is genuine or he compromises even further.

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  11. And you're still pushing god on people who do not believe in the same god. Stop proselytizing to others, asshole. You've decided to hunt people down on other forums now just to tell them you disagree? That's some sick messed up shit. You need professional help immediately before you snap and hunt down someone in the name of your Big J.

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  12. I'm throwing this right back in your face:

    "The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one
    who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while
    the one who abstains, abstains in honor for the Lord and give thanks to
    God.
    The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God."


    If you want to use that passage to justify your abstinence from a
    celebratory observation of a day, fine, but you must do it for the reason it's specifically told you. If you abstain, you do so . Not because "pagan-like revelry [is] a sin".

    Furthermore, you can't say generally that celebrating Christmas is sinful, therefore implicating many other Christians of sinning, and then in the next breath claim that you're keeping your faith between yourself and God.

    It's very simple, actually. Whatever you do should be out of a heart of thankfulness and giving honor to the Lord. If you don't have the faith to celebrate Christmas in that manner, then you should abstain in the same manner. The issue is not that celebrating Christmas is sinful; the issue is rather: if any explicit prohibition or authorization for something is not given in scripture, then you must do whatever it is that you're able to do out of a heart of thankfulness and honor to the Lord. If you can't do it with that attitude in your heart, then don't do it.

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  13. What could be done that is more "in honor of the Lord" than abstain from something that you have a faith conscience conviction would be sin for you to do? Your comment doesn't make any sense. Any celebration - holiday, birthday, whatever - done in a "pagan-like" manner would be sinful...by definition. Many Christians celebrate Christmas unlike pagans would do, to glorify and honor the Lord, and of course that is not sinful.

    Also, the article makes no statement whatsoever that Christians who celebrate Christmas are sinning. Last paragraph, "While my family and I do celebrate Christmas in many of the traditional ways, we don't however, bemoan those who abstain."

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  14. Deciding for yourself that something is a sin and then not doing it does not honor the Lord; it honors yourself. It is what Eve wanted, and what she obtained for the entire human race along with Adam: the ability to be like God, to determine right and wrong for ourselves.

    If you abstain from anything, it should be either because it's clearly and explicitly called a sin in the Scriptures, or else because you don't think your heart would be honoring the Lord by participating. But that doesn't mean the actions themselves are sinful, only that your heart would be sinful. If the actions would distract you from the

    "Any celebration - holiday, birthday, whatever - done in a "pagan-like" manner would be sinful...by definition."

    Tautological. Depends on your definition of "pagan-like". Does "pagan-like" include practices that the Bible clearly and specifically says are sinful? Then yes, those practices are sinful, by definition. Otherwise, not.

    "Also, the article makes no statement whatsoever that Christians who celebrate Christmas are sinning."

    "In a pagan-like manner". The article does and you just did again. The article said many Christians would personally condemn the actions of other Christians, and "according to God, are free to do so". That is the exact opposite of the sentiment expressed by Paul.

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  15. "Deciding for yourself that something is a sin and then not doing it does not honor the Lord; it honors yourself."

    This thought does not align with Romans 14 at all:
    [5] One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. [6] The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God.
    (Romans 14:5-6 ESV)

    "The actions themselves are not sinful."

    Again this doesn't agree with scripture, because the actions themselves WOULD be sinful for the person who doubts, or holds convictions that doing something is sinful. Being sinful for the one who holds the conviction does not mean the one holding the conviction declares it to be sinful for everyone else. From the same discussion in Romans 14:
    [23] But whoever has doubts [about if participating in something would be sinful] is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.
    (Romans 14:23 ESV)

    "However, saying that "according to God, [Christians] are free" to call the freedoms enjoyed by other Christians sinful is the exact opposite of what Paul was trying to say in that passage in Romans."



    Agreed. But again, this point is not being argued either in the article or by me now. Refer back to Romans 14.

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  16. "This thought does not align with Romans 14 at all"

    It does jive. If you abstain from something, abstain in honor and giving thanks, not because you think it's a sin. You're not allowed to make a judgement call on whether it's a sin or not. That's God's job. Likewise it says that those who partake should do so in honor and giving thanks. The only sin identified in that passage is lack of faith.

    "Being sinful for the one who holds the conviction does not mean the one
    holding the conviction declares it to be sinful for everyone else."

    Sin isn't a matter of personal opinion. The serpent's lie was that it could be, and Eve was enticed by the idea, and the fruit gave us the ability to reason out what seems to be right in our own eyes, but no; every time the Bible said of someone, "they did what seemed right in their own eyes", it was passing down a condemnation, not a commendation. Sin is not something we can decide; it is anything that goes against the will and nature of God, and his will and nature are unchanging.

    "this point is not being argued either in the article or by me now"

    Actually it was:

    "From the Puritans in England during the 1600s to the early Puritans here
    in the States, celebrating Christmas in a pagan-like revelry was
    considered a sin and was therefore avoided altogether. Similarly, there
    are many Christians today who still hold this view and according to God,
    are free to do so."

    Calling the celebrations held by fellow Christians "pagan-like" and "a sin", without clear and explicit scriptural basis, and thereby passing judgement on fellow Christians on a conscience-based issue, is absolutely not something that Christians are "free to do".

    See also II Sam 6:16-23. Christians ought to take greater care in deeming things "sinful" on the basis of their own personal conscience. God's law is immutable and inerrant, and yes, written on our hearts; our consciences, however, are also warped by the flesh's laws - the permanent effects of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. God's law is to be trusted and must always preempt our conscience, but in areas where God's law doesn't clearly permit or deny something, then we should follow our conscience: not because it might be a sin, but rather, because whether or not that action is a sin, doing it with a lack of faith would be sin.

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  17. I'll give this one last effort, and then I'm finished. I've given you the Romans 14 passages several times, yet you continue to misstate the plain reading of the text. Not sure why you're holding so tightly to an unorthodox teaching on this chapter.


    Romans 14:5-6 says that both the one who eats and the one who abstains, honors the Lord and gives him thanks. The one who eats honors the Lord in his "stronger" understanding and freedom in Christ, and the "weaker" one also honors the Lord by abstaining from something (any activity) where his conscience is convicted that participation is/may be sinful. It says he honors the Lord by abstaining.


    Verse 3 makes it clear that the one who abstains must not pass judgment on the one who participates.


    Verse 23 states clearly that it IS SIN for the "weaker" one to go against his conscience and participate. It is SIN for the weaker one, and the weaker one only. But it is SIN for him to go against his conscience. If it was something other than sin, the text would have used different words...like wrong..like disappointing....or unfortunate...but instead God uses the word sin, so that's what it is.


    The Puritan quote was correctly communicating the conscience conviction of the Puritan community. It was their shared conscience conviction that Christmas is a pagan holiday and therefore should not be recognized by God's people. If you and I disagree with the Puritans, and other Christians today who hold the same view, Romans 14 is very clear on how we're supposed to respond. The warning to us is to not do anything to pressure the others to act against their conscience...because for them to do so...would be sin.


    I'm unable to state it any clearer than this. If you would like some additional resources on the book of Romans I would be happy to forward to you.

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  18. It's sin for the weaker one to go against his conscience, yes. It's sin because it comes from lack of faith. The action by itself is not a sin. Doing it out of lack of faith is a sin: "whatever does not proceed from faith is sin".

    Did you look up the II Sam 6 passage?

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  19. Look, you even said it yourself: The Puritans believed that celebrating Christmas was sinful for God's people. Not just "for Puritans". An unrestricted statement about all God's people.

    And what if I was born to Puritan parents, and I didn't share in their convictions? Wouldn't they have tried to impress their own morals on me, some of which were self-invented? Isn't that what Jesus condemned in the Pharisees? Matt 15:9-10, Jesus quoting the words of Isaiah:

    This people honors me with their lips,
    but their heart is far from me;
    in vain do they worship me,
    teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.

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