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On Friday, February 28, 2014 Ray Comfort and his Living Waters staff released for download, their latest movie/documentary, "Noah—And the Last Days".

This film is not a reenactment of the life of the historical Noah, but a refreshing 30-minute movie that biblically and accurately depicts how the life of this righteous man is pertinent to our world today. "Noah" includes 10 biblical prophecies (which I share below), the true Gospel of Jesus Christ and interviews from ordinary people like you and me.

Unfortunately, there's another movie on the horizon about Noah. This movie, starring Russell Crow, was produced by Hollywood and will be opening in theaters the same day (March 28) Ray Comfort's Noah movie will be available on YouTube and DVD. As expected, Hollywood maligned the character of Noah; the one whom God said was the only righteous man of his time.

"The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually...But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.
These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God."
~Genesis 6:5, 8-9 (ESV)

Hollywood's version of Noah is an overly zealous, environmental psychopath who wanted to kill his grandchildren. Not quite the character God had written about Him in His Word. Far from it. Why does it matter whether or not Noah's character is maligned? It matters because Noah and the ark were shadows of the Christ to come—the one who would and has come to save people from the fatal consequences our sins deserve (Rom 3:23-25, 6:23). And when you mess with Christ, you mess with His Gospel. And when you mess with the Gospel, you mess with the eternal salvation of lost souls. And when you do that, well, you're just not a loving person. At least not in the biblical sense (1 Jn 4:8, 5:2-3).

On the brighter and more biblical side, Ray Comfort's "Noah" movie enlightens the hearts of the interviewees with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and wisely pricks the hearts of many with discerning questions about life, death and eternity. And if we're humble in heart, it ought to have the same affect on us, the viewers.


The movie opens with Ray interviewing people on the street, asking if they believe Noah was a real person and do they believe there was a worldwide flood? The first person questioned said she didn't believe Noah really existed because she was happy with her atheism, but was open to myths. Ray then quotes Matthew 24:37 as he leads us to the 10 biblical prophecies (with references included) that correspond with the story of Noah and what's happening in our world today.
  1. Love of money (2 Peter 2:1-3)
  2. Wars, earthquakes, famines (Matt 24:7)
  3. Moon will turn blood red (Acts 2:20)
  4. Blaspheming God's name will be common place (2 Tim 3:1-2)
  5. Increase of acceptance of homosexuality (Lk 17:28-30)
  6. Religious hypocrisy will be prevalent (2 Tim 3:5)
  7. People will deny God as Creator (2 Pet 3:3, 5, 6)
  8. Fear of the future (Lk 21:26)
  9. Scoffers will mock the end times saying warnings have always been, but nothing's happened (2 Peter 3:3-4)
  10. People won't take the end times prophecies seriously (Matt 24:37-39)
Along with each biblical end time prophesies listed above, clips of actual events and interviews of those who are affected by these are appropriately included.

One of the interviewees was Professor of Geology and Oceanography, Rick Behl of California State University-Long Beach. When Ray asked the Professor where all the water from the earth originated, his response essentially was that most of it came from comets. Then when Ray asked if his response was a fact or mere theory, Professor Behl chuckled and said, "Nothing about the origin of the earth is fact."

After Ray interviews people regarding each of the 10 biblical end times prophecies shared in this documentary, he then asks them to consider their eternal outcome in accordance to God's Word. When presented with the light of the Ten Commandments (Rom 7:7), and asked how he'd be found in God's sight, one of the interviewees responded, "I'd obviously be guilty unless it's the worst judicial system I've seen."

Ray closes the movie with, "We didn't produce 'Noah' to entertain you. We produced it in the sincere hope that you'd obey the Gospel, that you'd repent of your sins and trust alone in Jesus Christ, so we'll see you in Heaven."

I enjoyed this movie not because it was entertaining (not that I don't enjoy being entertained), but because it was more meaningful than mere entertainment which is like cotton candy—it's fun, tastes good, makes me feel good, but has no lasting affect after it's gone. There's a time and place for every activity (Ecc 3:1), and just the same there's an appropriate time and way to be entertained (which Scripture should never be used for), and there are times we need to buckle up and seriously consider the ramifications of the careless words we speak and actions we take.

Jesus is clear. He came the first time as a lamb to be slaughtered; as a propitiation for our sins. The second time He comes, it will be as a roaring lion; coming to destroy all who hate and deny Him.

One of the things I particularly like about the way Ray shares the Gospel and speaks with people is the clear evidence that he cares. It's difficult to watch Ray interact with people and come away without seeing the deep love for our Savior and extreme compassion for the lost. Ray also demonstrates great passion to see God's people rise up and join the battle to contend for the faith and make disciples—not false converts. Ray not only asks good, heart-piercing questions, but he also listens carefully to those he speaks with; which is obvious, as he responds directly to what they're saying rather than continue on with an off topic he already had in mind.

Being a good listener is key to being a good communicator. And Ray Comfort is a good communicator, especially for the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Why did you make this movie?

We made it to show that the Bible is absolutely credible. We wanted to show what was going on in Noah's day, is going on nowadays. And in Noah's day, the imaginations of men were continually evil. There was violence across the world and a lot of corruption, and that's what we see in today's society. In this movie, we show the fingerprint of God over all of Scripture. No one knows the future except God.


Did you deliberately make this movie to counter the unbiblical, Hollywood adaption of Noah, or was it simply coincidental?

It was deliberate. I heard Hollywood was making a movie about Noah that wasn't biblical. Hollywood knows how to make money from Christians. All they need to do is keep some biblical aspects, i.e., Cecil B. DeMille didn't make "The Twelve Commandments", he made "The Ten Commandments" and we Christians will love you and support you and give you our money.

But if they displayed the Prophet Muhammad as a psychopath you won't see Muslims lining up at the theaters two by two. You wouldn't see this because Muslims wouldn't stand for it and neither should Christians stand for this from Hollywood. Hollywood would never blaspheme the name of Muhammad like they blaspheme the name of our Lord...they wouldn't dare because they know there would be repercussions.

Though this movie is called "Noah" it isn't a visual reenactment of Noah's life. Why?

Because I didn't have time to build an ark. It would take me 120 years. We wanted to make a film about the prophecies that correlate to Noah and his time and our time. As I said in the movie, many think of Noah and the ark as a story from the past, but according to Jesus, the events surrounding the life of Noah are directly related to people today.

Also, prior to our downloadable release of this movie on February 28, California was in a severe drought. But then, the day we released "Noah" it poured, man it poured.

As with all your films, when you present the Gospel, you first share the Ten Commandments, emphasizing that our eternal salvation is a legal transaction between God and man. Why?

The Bible says sin is the transgression of the Law (1 Jn 3:4). The Law is the Ten Commandments. The Bible says God is a just Judge and we stand as guilty criminals before a holy God. We've violated His Law and our sentence is terminal. Jesus Christ came and paid our fine in full. That's what the Cross is all about. That's why Jesus cried, "It is finished". God can now legally dismiss our case in the courtroom. He can commute our death sentence and let us live because of the suffering, death and resurrection of our Savior.

What was your main motivation and what are your hopes for this movie?

I have a burning passion in life to see people in Heaven. Never before have we had a vehicle like the internet to spread the Gospel. Hundreds of years ago we'd put missionaries on a ship and it would take weeks, families would die of malaria and they would suffer many other unspeakable hardships. Today, all we need to do is push the "send" button and we can reach millions of people.

What makes a Christian video go viral? You do.

Flooding of Living Waters parking lot
on February 28, 2014. Photo: Ray Comfort
A special message from Ray:

Those of you who took advantage of our pre-release download offer on "Evolution vs. God" enabled us to fund the production of "Noah—And the Last Days." We would be grateful if you would consider doing the same with this movie, and in turn help us to continue producing similar projects in the future. 

When you download this movie for $19.99, you will get a free downloadable Companion Guide (valued at $4.99) containing further evidence for the Ark and the worldwide Flood, plus a special video message by Ken Ham, "Creation and the Last Days" (valued at $12.99).

"Noah—And the Last Days" will be available on YouTube and DVD starting March 28. See more at: http://www.noahthemovie.com

121 comments:

  1. Henry MoorehouseMarch 5, 2014 at 9:38 PM

    You don't seem to be able to see the forest for the trees, but I don't believe that's your biggest problem...
    http://www.examiner.com/article/publicly-criticizing-other-christians-online-part-1

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  2. Doug N Carol & Wesley, of course the gospels "got everything perfectly accurate" because they are written by God. We read the 4 gospels together to get the complete story, the complete gospel account. God does not contradict himself. I think the disconnect here may be that you hold a different view of the authority of scripture. If you do not view the word of God as absolute and authoritative in all things relevant to Christ and his church, we do not have a foundation on which to hold discussion related to scripture (2 Tim 3:16-17). If you want to see someone who vehemently defended scripture, read the words of Christ as he routinely quotes the OT as he teaches.

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  3. Question: have you and your family ever watched The 10 Commandments?

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  4. Doug N Carol McGrawMarch 5, 2014 at 11:14 PM

    We view the Word of God as absolute and authoritative. We are talking about a movie, which could point people to the Word of God. By the petty attack, vs. a kindly exhortation, you are making Christians seem hateful and mean. ('Son of God' Is Most Certainly Not The Son of God )

    BTW, Jim, I might correct you .... it is the Word of God, not the word of God. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God .....



    We, and the folks we were with, have been immersed in Scripture for many years. One is 86 yrs. old, and has been a Bible Study Fellowship leader for 15 years. We lead 2 Bible studies. We saw certain errors in the movie ( as someone pointed out, it is a movie, not a documentary ), but the movie pointed to Christ as the Saviour and the Son of God. The Word incarnate. His love shone through, not like that venemous review.

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  5. Dan Brown is alive and well.

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  6. Doug and Carol: I find these two statements confusingly contradictory. Perhaps you can explain why they're not?

    "I agree with Wesley, who says below " Jim, do you think that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John got everything perfectly accurate in the gospels? If so, why are there differences in their writings?""

    "We view the Word of God as absolute and authoritative."

    If you accept the Word as absolute, then how can you agree with Wesley who apparently believes that the 4 gospels are not absolute, since he seems to be presenting that they are not perfectly accurate?

    That appears to be contradictory, and I believe is why Jim assumes in his last reply a belief on your part that the Scriptures are not perfectly accurate.

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    All that said, let me ask you another question. Why would Roma Downey, who has been a Christian for many years and has two or more pastors as advisors, and no doubt had the Bible available to her throughout development of this, choose to purposely change the entire sequence of events of the Lazarus raising, just as one example, which is fully and readily documented in the Scriptures? Can you present a legitimate reason why it would be important to portray a Jesus surprised by Lazarus' death rather than the Biblical Jesus who with divine foreknowledge purposely waited until 4 days after Lazarus' death to arrive, so that God would be specially glorified by the manner and timing of Lazarus' resurrection?


    Or what compelling reason is there to have Judas' betrayal changed from an act of evil to an act compelled by Christ? How does that mesh with Judas hanging himself thereafter? What reason is there to open up these potential confusions and contradictions to leave unbelievers with the idea that the Bible might have got it wrong about what happened? I'm quite concerned about the motivation that led the creators of this film to feel the Biblical facts were inadequate and needed replacing.



    Suppose that a film which claimed to be the story of George Washington's life had George Washington forcing Benedict Arnold to try to sell out West Point to the British, insisting it must be done while an innocent victim Benedict tearfully begged not to be asked to do it? Wouldn't historians be up in arms at such a film introducing confusion and error into the minds of those who don't know their history well enough to know better? We know the facts of what happened between George Washington and Benedict Arnold, and we know the facts of what happened between Jesus and Judas.


    I can think of no legitimate reason to alter easily documented Biblical facts in such a way, and it bothers me that multiple pastors were okay with that.

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  7. Jim I believe you have made the Bible your God, much like the Pharisees made the Torah theirs. "You diligently search the scriptures for in them you THINK you have life. But they speak of Me and you won't come to Me." They missed Him because they had their own ideas and misconceptions about how he would come and reveal Himself. I believe you are doing the same. You don't like the way He's revealing Himself, so you are judging this as not Him. And in a way you are judging Him. He reveals Himself in ways that we may not understand or believe is Him, but He's bigger than us and our ideas of how He does things. I didn't come to Him through the Bible, neither did my sister. He reveals himself everyday to those of other religions who wouldn't read a Bible if you gave them one. Yes I believe in the authority of the Bible. I actually read it, study it, quote it, meditate on it. It is a map, but most people make it a box in which they put a tiny god. As I stated before, we don't know everything that Jesus said or did while He was here in the flesh. He is here now in us as the Holy Spirit and He speaks in ways other than the Bible. As Doug and Carol stated this film is a movie, not a documentary. It made me love him more. I rejoice that there are people being drawn the Jesus through this film. I trust Him that He is big enough to lead them to people that will love them and disciple them to into a living relationship with Him.

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  8. Jonathan B, I never said I didn't believe the Bible to be authoritative. What I said is that their are inaccuracies. I don't believe they're huge doctrinal issues, just some discrepancies.

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  9. Wesley, the Bereans would disagree with you (Acts 17). We will all be accountable for how we handle the truth of God, the word of God, and how we worship the Word of God (threw that in for Doug's benefit :-)

    I think we should draw this discussion to a close to avoid sinful argument. I've allowed you guys to voice your disapproval on my forum, it is noted. And just as my opinion has not changed yours, yours has not changed mine in the least. Sunny has been contacted by numerous Pastors across the country, grateful for the review as they share the warnings of departure from scripture with their congregations. It is approaching 100K likes on Facebook and The Christian Post from other Christians who are also grateful for the review. So, all that to say there will be people who see the value, and others who won't. Sunny was fully aware of that when she wrote her article.

    "Remind them of these things, and charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, and their talk will spread like gangrene." (2 Timothy 2:14-17, ESV)



    This will end my comments and conversation with you. God bless you and Doug.

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  10. Hi muzjik, yes we have seen it. And yes, we are aware of the artistic license and outright fabrication in the movie. I wasn't alive when the movie was released, but I must believe there were faithful Elders and Pastors who made sure their people understood what they were seeing on the big screen was not accurate.

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  11. It may help to explore the heretical and blasphemous link contained in this blog. There is a line over which we should not tread. Leading people to Christ must not be done under false pretense. The means are as important as the end. While Uzzah's reason for touching the Ark of the Covenant was to protect it, he was struck dead because God said not to touch it. http://www.gotquestions.org/Uzzah.html is worth looking at to begin to gain some insight into why taking poetic license with God's Word must not be taken lightly.

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  12. And I will do the same, with one last comment. Just because the majority agree, doesn't make it the truth.
    God bless you brother.

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  13. Wesley, agreed. May the Lord's grace and peace be with your spirit brother.

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  14. Wesley: You are right that God does indeed speak in other ways than the Bible. However, it is also true that He does not speak in ways that contradict the Bible. God is always consistent with Himself and gave us the Bible not only to inform us about Himself but to give us a measuring rod against which to determine the truth or falsehood of claims made about God by others.

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  15. Yes Bishop Jackson Plant, I agree with what my Lord Jesus said, if HE be lifted up He will draw all men to Himself. This movie doesn't lift up Jesus, just a golden calf, spit shined and polished up with the name of Jesus slapped on it. This movie lifts up a false christ, not the true Christ of Scripture.

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  16. "We're not pastors and we're not qualified to teach. What we're qualified to do is make an emotional connection." ~ Mark Burnett

    And that about sums it up, from the filmmaker's own mouth. An emotional experience, absent the holiness and righteousness of God, and the uniqueness of Christ against every false religion in this world. Not just a shadow of the true Christ; a perversion.

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/burnett-and-downey-talk-son-of-gods-profound-impact-address-critics-115676/

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  17. I did not get a chance to watch the mini series, but saw a clip of the movie on a popular christian TV station. I was immediately troubled in my spirit. This was not what the Bible says. Why change it? Can anyone come to know the true Lord Jesus Christ by watching this movie? Broad is the way .......

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  18. Doug N Carol McGrawMarch 6, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Jonathan, I did not mean to agree that the Bible was innacurate I was agreeing with the fact there are differences, in the spirit that I thought it was meant by Wesley.
    and, of which there is no question:


    http://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2012/march/differences-in-gospels-closer-look.html

    We could go on forever about other minutiae. But, as for us, we considered the movie a good movie for those who believe and for those who don't. His love and compassion, His submission and sacrafice are dealt with in a manner that points the way .....

    Personally, I think this review is much more germaine and indicative of God's loving ways:

    http://www.dove.org/review/10176-son-of-god/

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  19. Well dang, I was so looking forward to seeing this movie. But now, what's the point

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  20. Amen Fran! And narrow is the gate and only a few find it. May God grant them all repentance.

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  21. Simon N Jackie ManningMarch 6, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    Paul explicitly teaches against this very idea, and it is why the modern false church of america has no power. You cannot compromise the Gospel to attract people. You preach the Truth, God will either change their heart or not change it. Many people use Paul's statement from Mars Hill completely out of context. He never compromised the Truth of the Gospel, just to attract people, that is why so many wanted him dead. But what he did was understand the people's knowledge level and background so that he could bring the True Gospel to them in a way they would understand. With Jews he started with the Law, with the gentiles he started with Creation. But he always presented True Gospel, the Offensive Cross.

    Jesus used the same approach, he didn't go around telling everyone how great they are and how much he needed them. He told them not only were they sinners, but worse sinners then they thought, because God not only sees their deeds but their hearts. So to present another Gospel just to draw people to this false God created by the other Gospel is damnable heresy, I will paul speak for himself.

    Galatians 1
    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

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  22. Your post goes beyond solidifying my decision, thank you for your undying passion for Truth and boldly standing up for The Gospel.

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  23. *decision to NOT see the movie*

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  24. Thanks for the food for thought here. I will have to go back and read what you wrote a little closer before I can give a opinion but I will say that in the last couple years it seems that more and more women ( and men for that matter ) are "following" authors and teachers and that we are falling away from the Bible. My Pastor and I have have talked extensively about this. He comes from a Communist background and the only thing he studied was the Bible. He is so blown away that here in Canada ( not just Canada ) we get our teachings from authors and teachers rather than reading and studying the Bible itself. I would rather get my teachings from a God written book rather than human written. Not saying I don't enjoy reading, I do, but I am learning where the Truth and 100% of the Truth is found. Thanks again for the great article.

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  25. Philippians 15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. 16 The latter do so out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. 18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

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  26. Thank you for this helpful review. The foundation of our understanding of God and Jesus Son Of God has to be the bible. This new film seems to have many ways of distracting people from the real Jesus and could distract people away from what sin is and what Jesus Christ accomplished which is tied in with whom he is. As we say the Bible is our principle revelation source of who God and Jesus is.
    Thanks again for this review and God bless
    Robert M

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  27. Sunny, I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Are we to consider false teachers part of the body of Christ? I understand that no one's theology is perfect. But is there not some point where a false teacher needs to stop being considered a true Christian? You go to great lengths to stress that all of these women are sisters in Christ. But considering some of the things that these women are teaching, I am having a great deal of difficulty believing that they are simply "gone astray". Thanks in advance for your feedback.

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  28. One question: Did the author of this article talk to any of the above mentioned ladies about the concerns before posting the writing about them?

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  29. You're most welcome. and amen brother. :o) God's Word is our only true revelation of Jesus Christ.

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  30. Kip, this passage would apply if the movie was preaching Christ. But they're not. They're preaching a false christ with a false gospel.

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  31. I thought that's what you meant. Glad I could help. :o)

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  32. It's not my biblical standards she doesn't meet, it's God's Test her writings and message with God's Word like a Berean.


    Ann doesn't point to Christ, she points to self, emotions and everything that makes us feel good about ourselves rather than see ourselves as we are...total wretches, blessed and saved by an awesome Savior.

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  33. Thanks for your encouragement precious sister Pam. I look forward to getting to know you. :o)

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  34. Thank you for your encouragement sister Jules. Yes, "emotional crack" is a good description. We all want to feel good about being an emotional crack rather than a wretch saved by grace and living victoriously as God's daughters and blessed slaves of Christ.

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  35. Yes sister, the Bible IS for everyone, but women aren't supposed to take a position (like Beth Moore does) to teach men. No segregation, just biblical submission as a woman under the headship of Christ. :o)

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  36. HI Susan, yes I did (only Moore and Voskamp b/c I can't get in touch with Young)...years ago. And you know? I guess since I'm just a big 'ol nobody, nobody got back to me. :o)

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  37. Hey there precious sister Molly, good question. I say that I "believe" them to be our sisters in Christ b/c they profess Christ as the only way for salvation and to God the Father. But since I don't walk with them and see them in their day to day lives, I can't know their hearts or presume they are not like many I've seen in the past, fall away, then repent.


    I've been one of those...who as an emotional women gave into teachings about extra-biblical revelations until God graciously taught me through His Word, my husband and other godly men that this is not of God, but of the devil who's been lying since the beginning.


    We're all capable of being deceived. I pray that's all this is for all three women.

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  38. Amen, the truth is found only in God's Word. That's why we all ought to be like the Bereans and test everything against God's Word and reject anything that is opposed to sound doctrine (2 Cor 10:5).

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  39. Amen precious sister Dee,


    "Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom He also created the world." ~Hebrews 1:1-2


    If someone says, "God told me" they need to have a chapter and verse or you can be sure, God never told them whatever is about to come out of their mouths.

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  40. Please don't suggest that addressing published false teachings is a matter to be addressed privately (Matthew 18).

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  41. I won't be seeing the movie. I watched much of "The Bible" on History Channel tonight and Daniel's prophesy (Daniel 7: 13-14) didn't sound right to me. I was right that what they had Daniel say was inaccurate, and disturbingly so as I understand it. What Bible were they reading in order to come up with the script for this series and movie?

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  42. Julie, can you elaborate what you mean by "being in God's will as the only way to heaven"? Catholicism is opposed to the true Gospel of Jesus Christ by their own anathemas at the Council of Trent (which still stand), so I was curious if you were a Catholic or are a Catholic?

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  43. Hi Jim - thank you so much for responding.
    Yes, I'm sure there were pastors who advised their flocks on the inaccuracies of The 10 Commandments and warned them that it was an adaptation, and not a faithful rendering of Scripture. However, in 1957 these pastors did not have a nationwide, viral platform to say "no profession Christian should see this movie", as Sunny has done.
    Nor does she seem to allow for "artistic license" from the makers of this film (which I have not seen and have no reason to defend) as you obviously have allowed for other Bible-based films. And making sure people understand inaccuracies is not quite the same as labeling a movie "heretical and blasphemous" with a "false christ preaching a false gospel".

    Again, I really have no reason to defend the film and probably will emerge from it with my own list of objections, but Sunny's objections seem to lean heavy against the artistic choices the producers made to translate written word to the visual medium of a 2ish hour film and how she would have done things differently.
    Examples: they don't show Jesus washing of the disciples' feet, He only says "I will be betrayed, suffer and die" once instead of three times, Jesus looks surprised too often.
    The calling of Peter provides another great example. Sunny condemns the "artistic license" of having Jesus tell Peter to follow him "and change the world" instead
    of calling him to be a "fisher of men". But did His teaching not change
    the world? Were the apostles not accused of turning the world upside
    down (Acts 17:6). I don't see how using that phrase is
    "unBiblical"...at least not enough to say the movie is about "a fake
    Jesus". John's gospel doesn't even mention Jesus' use of "fishers of
    men" in His call to Peter, BTW.
    Oh...and the Pharisees DID fear the Romans: see John 11:48-50

    In fact, Sunny's biggest complaint seems to be that the movie does not contain a full-on revival-type sermon...pretty hard to do in a 2ish hour film short of stopping the action and having a character awkwardly paraphrase "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God"...the downfall of many, many "Christian" films.

    The funny thing is that I probably agree with Sunny in more
    areas in general than I disagree. I just do not care for the methods
    used here to reach the conclusion that no professing Christian should get
    anywhere near this movie. There is a difference between discerning and
    nit-picking bordering of ridiculous (and I can do both well).

    If
    this movie is true to whom Jesus is - the Messiah; the Lamb who has
    come to take away the sins of the world; the risen Lord; the Way, the Truth, and the Life - isn't it worth
    watching and possibly supporting and THEN we all can have conversations about
    the interpretation nuances of "fishers of men" vs "change the world"?

    In
    1957, The 10 Commandments won 4 Oscars, including
    best picture. I appreciate you allowed for the people under the shepherding of the warning Elders and Pastors to see the movie on the big screen. But do you think that Sunny's commentary (do NOT support
    this unGodly paganism with your Christian $$$) is why the current crop
    of Oscar nominees included movies like American Hustle and Wolf of Wall
    Street instead of movies like The 10 Commandments?...which probably would
    have been virally shredded for its inaccuracies before it made its
    first million.

    PS - I also want to make sure you realize my critique of Sunny's review has nothing to do with her being a woman..because I am too. :-)

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  44. Thank you for this review. I noticed some of the errors in the film but chose to overlook them and try to be an optimist towards the film. Unfortunately, feelings are fickle, and even I fell for the false depiction of Jesus. This article needs to be shared more!

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  45. Great review, in the trailer for movie I noticed that Jesus told Peter that they would change the world. I thought to myself, that's not what He said, what other liberties have they taken. I also noted That Jesus kissed Lazarus' forehead in the tomb, He did not go into the tomb. If they would have scripted him to say, save the world, at least it would have been closer to the truth. I was wondering about this movie if it would be made to be more acceptable to people and it seems so. I will pass on this movie. Of all stories to take liberties with, this is not the one. It might seem trivial but one tiny bit addeD or taken away is something God forebade against and i do not think this is ant different. Thanks

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  46. I am Catholic. I do not know where you get the idea that we are opposed to the true gospel when in fact our faith is 2000 years old, and most consistent.
    The Council of Trent merely re affirmed that our use of books of Scripture is correct, the Septuagint tradition, which is the very same used by those who anticipated the Messiah for 200 years prior to Our Lord's birth, and the same Septuagint used by Peter and Paul and the apostles. Martin Luther removed books and passages that did not support his ideas. His intention was purity and so he went to the Masoretic text which came about 200 years after the Messiah, but interpretations that caused division among the rabbis themselves. Ironically, the Septuagint was put together by 70 rabbis called by Emperor Ptolemy in Egypt, to compile Jewish scriptures for his library. He had the rabbis separated until their work was completed. When their books were compared, all 70 authors' phrases and wording, imagery were the same...a miracle of the Holy Spirit: the Septuagint.

    So, our use of Scripture, our Christ directed worship -its spirit, tone, parts the same today as then, our form of authority found in Scripture -- the bishopry and consecrated priesthood, and our beliefs, were formed by 100 AD and practiced throughout the ancient Christian world.

    What follows Revelations is now Christ's Church -- a living sacrament so to speak, Christ, Logos, the Living Word as Beth Moore also affirms.

    There are countless saints down through the ages, documented for the Church and for mankind, who are great testimonies to the Gospel.

    Likewise, note that virtue hides itself for God alone. We are instructed not to show off our response to the Gospel but do them for God alone and not for the world to see.

    Be careful of what you hear from others because they have some kind of animosity towards our tradition of faith. It does hurt us even if our Church is big. Again, it is 2000 years old, and suffers the same fate as the Jews...with many testimonies of great Christians, ordinary believers, and those who unfortunately have caused alot of scandal.

    I see Christ at work here among contributors as well, and affirm the presence of the Lord as well.

    God bless you!

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  47. I think Beth is a great believer in the Lord, but yes, there is alot of intense emotion. I really like how the Lord came in the Old Testament as the gentle breeze, or how Christ did not shout out at street corners.

    The Lord comes to us and speaks to us 24 hours a day, but in His gentle spirit.

    Likewise I do think we should be open to women teachers, and Beth is one, but I think only men called to ministry are the ones given the grace to preach.

    St. Peter exhorts women to be gentle and quiet and it does good for us, emotional beings that we are, especially in the frantic times we live in.

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  48. Very insightful. I notice that as well in many televised programs as well. Scripture must be interpreted to apply to the times we live in today. We need to pray for good teaching.

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  49. Hi again muzjik - I don't see the logic in differentiating between a pastor warning his people in 1957 and an internet article doing the same thing in 2014. The message to believers (to be true to scripture and not emotions) is the same regardless of the size of the audience, so to speak.


    I think the point about why artistic license should not be supported in a film that claims to be biblical has been fully discussed. Does it not seem strange to you that whenever "artistic license" is claimed, it almost always has to do with watering down the gospel and diminishing God's righteousness? I do.


    Finally, I will never compare scripture to entertainment options from Hollywood, and neither should you. Scripture is holy, it is not entertainment. I fully support family-friendly entertainment and wish there were more of it available to all of us. But that should never be an excuse to produce material that isn't just "incomplete" "we ran out of time" " we need artistic license" blah blah blah...it communicates error. Which is the biggest point with this movie. This isn't the Ten Commandments or the story of Esther...this movie purports to teach the Christ and the gospel. We CAN'T support anything that not only gets it wrong, but goes out of it's way to get it wrong.

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  50. There's also. "who's" instead of a "whose." I was also disturbed by "surprised" Jesus.

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  51. Hi Jim - if you honestly don't see the difference between your example of pastors making "sure their people understood what they were seeing on the big screen" and your wife posting an review on the internet telling people that no professing Christian should get near this blasphemous and heretical movie, I'm not sure what else can be said.
    I also am baffled why artistic license seems to be ok with you if the movie is the story of Esther or Moses. Both are Scripture and both are accounts of God providing a deliverer for His people: the Gospel, if you will.
    But thanks for the conversation.

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  52. Where do I start?...........Oh My God what an insidious disease has crept into the teaching within the church. Thank you for revealing Roma Downey as a new ager and her affiliation with Osteen and TD Jakes - that is disturbing to say the least! Thank you for reporting on Hollywood's Noah and endorsement of Ray Comfort's production.

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  53. Not sure if this has already been said...

    Isaiah 53:2

    For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

    In Hollywood, Jesus is always portrayed by a beautiful man. Just saying...

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  54. Fanny Lissette DiazMarch 11, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    I was going to watch this movie today with my sister in law and my brother (both of them are non christians) reading all these reviews and comments I am concluding is better not to take them to the movie theater, I don't like the idea of non biblical scenes, I am a lover of the truth and the truth only, His name is Jesus Christ, the only way to really know Him is through the Gospels and the entire New Testament. The idea of the producers of this movie as being "new ager's" turns my hair ends up, I don't know what is going on and what it could be behind all this.

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  55. Thank you so much, for taking the Word of God so seriously! I wish more Christians would do the same! I praise the Lord for your life, and pray that He will continue using you for His purpose, in Jesus name, amen! God bless you!

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  56. HELLO to my friends out there i am testifying about the good work of a man who help me it has been hell from the day my husband left me i am a woman with two kids my problem stated when the father of my kids travel i never help he was living but as at two weeks i did not set my eye on my husband i try calling but he was not taken my call some week he call me telling me that he has found love some where easy at first i never take to be serous but day after he came to the house to pick his things that was the time i notice that things is going bad i help he will come back but things was going bad day by day i needed to talk to someone about it so i went to his friend but there was no help so i give it up on him month later i met on the the internet a spell caster i never believe on this but i needed my men back so i gave the spell caster my problem at first i never trusted him so i was just doing it for doing sake but after three day my husband called me telling me that he his coming home i still do not believe but as at the six day the father to my kids came to the house asking me to for give him the spell work to said to my self from that day i was happy with my family thanks to the esango priest of (abamieghe)esango priest he his a great man you need to try him you can as well to tell him your problem so that he can be of help to you his content email is this esangopriest@gmail.com indeed you are a priest thank you for making my home a happy home again. remember his email is esangopriest@gmail.com

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  57. Thank you for your very thorough interview. Your points are well thought out and backed up through Scripture. I can't say that I'm surprised at Hollywood's take on Jesus. It was something to be expected. I was hoping that one could take an unbelieving friend to the movie and then later have a discussion on the truth of it. But now I see that might be unwise. Especially in light of what Roma and her husband really believe http://thelasthiker.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/the-son-of-god-movie-is-not-what-we-think-do-you-know-the-voice-of-your-master/)

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  58. Well,
    being an old codger calvinist I know without even seeing the movie it
    is a blatant and egregious violation of the 2nd and 3rd commandments, as
    are all sculptures, statues, pictures, movies, videos etc. portraying
    the Lord. No doubt the content is blasphemous and/or heretical too, but by seeing the movie I
    would be implicitly condoning sin.

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  59. Great discernment Drummond51! The "bible" they're using is the mix of God's Word (but VERY little of it and completely out of context), the New Age "bible" along with some psychic, mystical and Roman Catholic theology thrown it. It's basically a mixed bag of bad theology...which of course, only produces a really bad "biblical" movie.

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  60. Thanks for sharing that JoJo Ma. I know it's hard to get over our emotions and what "feels" right over what really is right by God's definition. I'm grateful to the Lord for continually leading you to Him and His truth just as He does with me. And yes, I agree, this truth needs to spread so the blasphemy of our Lord Jesus on the big screen will be taken down like the Asherah poles.

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  61. I agree. Not many do...but I do.

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  62. Hi Sunny,
    I would just like to say how grateful I am for your critique of these women preachers/motivational speakers! I have sisters who have a sincere love for the things of The Lord but they are being mislead by women such as these as well as others and it really breaks my heart. One of them is at a conference right now headlined by Beth Moore so I am praying that she will have some discernment about her. Your article is exactly the sort of clarity I was looking for, and hope that my sisters will one day appreciate. Your blog gives me hope that there are women out there on a public platform who stand for truth and aren't afraid to speak it. God bless you and your ministry Sunny.

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  63. Not just feminism, but I believe this was due to Dan Brown's books, and the belief that Mary Magdelene was "the disiple whom Jesus Loved".

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  64. Non Christians do not want to believe in a just and Judging God. They want to believe in a 'loving' god that no matter what a person does (without repenting), will all go to Paradise. They don't want to have to accept Jesus, nor his teachings and ways, and his word, "repent.. and sin no more". They want to believe that as long as you have a "good heart" with "good intentions", you get to go directly to heaven. "Narrow is the way, and few who will go.. Wide is the path to desctruction"

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  65. Sunny you are so right if you are going to tell a story from the Bible about jesus then it should be the full gospel truth without sugar coating what the Scriptures say. It's deceiving

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  66. I've been taught to be a "eat the meat, spit out the bones" type of reader and while I've always got something out of Beth and Ann's writing I have to agree with your assessment. Sometimes the flowery imagery paints a picture of God that isn't necessarily true. ...which is why it takes me months to write each devotional post I write. I'm afraid of saying something inaccurate so I spend weeks pouring over the words and adding Bible verses to back up everything. I'm completely taken back by the quote from the author of Jesus Calling. That's pretty outrageous! I never saw the need for the book but wow, it's definitely not inspired.

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  67. "Emotional crack"—wow, that is a really good way to put it! And of course those who get sucked into it need to keep getting their 'hits', too. Very sad.


    Sunny, thank you for this post. I've actually seen others of Moore that go quite in-depth, but for someone who is unsure or just learning about these writers, this post is the sort that will (I hope) encourage them to be more Berean-like and pay closer attention to what they're being told.

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  68. I stopped reading when you claim the movie portrays 13 apostles. That's false. And you try to be deceptive by referring to the 13th apostle as some "woman named Mary." It was clear to even my children that this was Mary Magdalene, when she found the empty tomb. So I think it's incredibly disingenuous (and hypocritical) to claim a move is not biblical, while you're not being biblical.

    And your claim that she's an apostle is also completely unfounded. Yes, she's in a lot of scenes, but she was absent from the Last Supper. You also failed to mention this in your review, and once again steered everyone astray by claiming this "woman named Mary" was "always with them." No, she wasn't "always" with them. Is it possible that Mary Magdalene, or any woman, was with Christ a lot? Absolutely. I would even say, probably.

    If you're willing to correct the errors in your "13th apostle" section, I'd be willing to continue reading.

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  69. Thank you for your review and your concern about what is true.

    John Lofton, Director
    The God And Government Project
    JLof@aol.com

    http://christiannews.net/2013/09/24/taking-back-city-hall-christians-urged-to-speak-up-at-city-council-meetings-on-duty-to-obey-god/

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  70. You're so very welcome precious sister Hailey. And I appreciate your kindness and encouragement. However, just so I'm not accused of showing favoritism to those who are kind to me, I must share that you used God's name in vain in your comment saying "Oh My G-d..." and therefore does not comply with my commenting rules. I'll give you some time to see this and edit your comment as I know you meant no ill. :o)

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  71. No error, and no deception. Though it's most likely Mary Magdalene, because they don't express that in the movie, I don't make that presumption. They just called her "Mary" and therefore, so did I.


    And I have no desire to argue or talk you or anyone into reading anything. Read or don't read. It's your prerogative.


    I didn't write this review to please people. I wrote it to please God my Father.


    "For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ." ~Galatians 1:10

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  72. Yes, they were, BUT they were inspired by the Holy Spirit to write the infallible words of Scripture...I wasn't and neither is this review...inspired nor infallible.


    "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work." ~2 Tim 3:16-17

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  73. Beth is not a female teacher anyone ought to be open to as her teaches are not based on Scripture, but her own erroneous, extra-biblical "revelations" as well as her constant practice of taking God's Word out of the context in which He intended and uses the Lord's holy Word's to fit into her unscrupulous ideologies.

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  74. Amen. Thank you precious sister Melissa for your kind words of encouragement. I am blessed to know that there are sisters out there like YOU who still hold steadfastly to God's holy Words and precepts rather than be drawn away by ear ticklers and heart tuggers. I will keep you and your sisters in my prayers. ♥

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  75. Ah...thank you sweet Rachel. I got that corrected! Love my grammar friends! I appreciate you. :o)

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  76. It is hard to separate a strong and sincere believer from erroneous teachings and we have to be careful likewise not to be judgmental.
    When it comes to revelations of Christ, it was made know to us a long time ago. The Council of Nicea further defined Christ as both True God and True Man in response to Arianism that stated Jesus had a beginning and end, when in fact it is through Christ the world was created, and He became True Man at the Incarnation.


    If the Lord had a beginning and an end, then such a belief would lead believers back into polytheism and then paganism. There are modern beliefs coming out of America, going back to the 1800's, one of them stating that God was once a man, that Jesus is the brother of Adam, even of Lucifer.


    So true belief in Christ, I would say, is what we believe is Orthodox...contained in the Apostles Creed, and then the Church necessity to further define Christ as True Man and True God---300 plus years later, the Nicene Creed.


    I would agree that anything outside our understanding of Christ that we have held since His coming is not of Him. We have to be very careful between established deposit of belief and practice in Christ vs personal interpretations, because they lead us to a false understanding of Him, of ourselves, and of each other creating divisions.


    I did not come back to that class. Frankly, I am surprised it was even allowed in my parish. The group leader said we come together to share our opinions, and I personally am not interested in sharing opinions but truths of Christ, always in need of growth in the truth of Jesus Christ, because, Jesus said to Pilate, "I am Truth". He did not say, I am opinion.

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  77. If the fact that she found the empty tomb is not enough, have you heard of a site called IMDB.com? It has all the actors in movies and their role. When you look up who Amber Rose Revah played in the movie, it says Mary Magdalene.

    I think you should also point out that she was not present at the Last Supper, that she wasn't always with them and that she was definitely Mary Magdalene. Wouldn't that be a more honest review?

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  78. Is there a reason my reply was deleted?

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  79. Hi there WillCD, your comment didn't get deleted, it just never got posted. If you look on the right sidebar, you'll notice my "Commenting Rules" which include why a comment would get deleted as well as why some comments are automatically sent to moderation before I even see it. I haven't had a chance to go over to Disqus (the third party tool I use for comments) to take a look at all the comments that need moderation or have been flagged by others. When I get a chance to do that today, and your comment meets with my commenting requirements, I'll be happy to approve it and then it will be displayed.

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  80. I'm blessed & impressed at your knowledge of His Word & your extensive review, scene by scene. Though I'll never see this movie, this is NEEDED, movies like this ARE part of 'the great falling away' & even the very elect will be deceived, if it was possible, through their lack of studying the Word! We do NOT need to be entertained! We need time with Him & learning of HIS ways, & need to crucify our fleshly lusts for entertainment!
    I'm sharing this on my facebook page....here's another excellent review, exposing the New Age roots...it's on a public page on facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152303399634603&set=a.10150096177304603.305916.716534602&type=1&theater

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  81. I wonder how may people knew every aspect of the Bible before they came to Christ. I know I was not one. I know my wife was not one. We Christians, Which I am very proud to be called one, sure do Love shooting ourselves in the foot. This movie is not for just believers but also for none believers. When I was a little child I saw the 10 commandments,. now knowing a great deal more about the written word, I see many errors in it also. But the memory of that movie has stuck in my mind my whole live and I believe was one of the seeds that one day brought me to Christ. We want Hollywood to come out with better stuff and we want the message of Christ to be known, Which Is I Love you, I have made a great sacrifice of Love so that we may have reconciliation with God. I AM who I say I Am.. If you except me you can live out your eternal life with me or if you do not, in complete separation of God in Hell. I agree this movie had many errors but the point of it is to bring people to Christ. The Pharisees had a great deal of knowledge of the written. word too, how many of them excepted Christ? So from the stand point of this article, If I did not know the Matthew was not sitting at a table when Christ called him, I can not be saved. That is ridiculous. This Movie is not the written word for word for word. But it is a good message. I would not support a movie that did not Proclaim Christ as the Son of God. A man of great courage and strength. I say let's get behind the people who are sticking there neck out there to finally get this type of great message out through Hollywood type productions. I am so glad that the person who wrote this article is the only one that I have ever heard of that knew the entire Bible word ford before coming to Christ. Must be a very special person and one who lives by many laws. Thank goodness for Gods Forgiveness.

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  82. I’m sorry but I believe your article was not carefully written. You did not show love to these women but called them heretics to your readership. Did you go to them
    personally and disagree? This type of judging is for God only. When you
    attack other believers in this way, you make the unbelieving world laugh. They
    believe you are a hypocrite.

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  83. Hi Moonoverhill. False teachings and teachers are never a private matter in the Bible and they should be dealt with publicly. If you're trying to apply Matt. 18 to this situation, you may want to go back and read that passage again to see that it relates to personal sins committed against each other, which is not being addressed here in any way. If you would like to learn more about how God instructs his people to deal with false teachers, I would suggest studying Romans 16:17-18, Matt 7:15-20, and 2 Peter 2:1-3 to get you started.

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  84. A few too many strawman arguments to address here Bryant. The article never suggests that an unsaved person must know everything the Bible says in order to be saved. The point of the article is that professing Christians spent millions of dollars and years of their time creating a movie that gives an inaccurate gospel presentation and a false view of God. If I slap the name Jesus on a rock and walk around town letting people hold my rock, have I "shared Jesus" with anyone? Of course not. This movie is another Jesus, another story. That's the point.

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  85. One last one. In the last sentence, "it's anemic" should be "its anemic" (no apostrophe). Thank you for a very useful review!

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  86. You're welcome. And thank YOU for sharing that correction. I just fixed it. :o)

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  87. A rock does not give a glimpse of Christ suffering for us. You used a very poor analogy. Try again. In what regard does it give a false view of God? I brought a new Christian to this movie and it may her feel some of the pain of Christs suffering for us. It encouraged a great deal more hunger for Gods written word. I am not denying that the movie did not betray many scenes as far as location or presentation. I do not believe that they called it the Book of Mathew, Mark , Luke or John. They called it the Son of God. I hear your argument and understand where you are coming from. But you need to realize that not everybody out there know s the Bible as well as you or I. Look at it as a tool. A starting place to begin a conversation with someone. Then say, If you want to know more about this suffering Jesus who died for your sins and mine then here is a good place to start Mathew Mark Luke and John and be there to help guide them through. I look at this movie as seed. I would say your story is a very powerful story that can be used to bring people to Christ or to plant a seed as well as mine. Maybe this is a bad analogy as well. But the point I am making is look at it for what it does do. If it was called the the Gospel of Mathew etc. I would be right with you, but it's not.

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  88. As the review makes clear, the movie provides a false view/depiction of God because it gives an emotional, man-centered false gospel presentation instead of the true gospel message from scripture. To prove the point, here's a much shorter (only 5 min) video that gives a complete and accurate gospel presentation. It isn't hard to do.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCSUKIhjevo#t=302

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  89. That's nice and a good message. But you know I don't see any of the disciples in this clip. You know I didn't see any roman centurions by the tomb when the rock was rolled away I and I didn't see the story Lazarus in there either. What about Peter and Jesus making him a fisher of men, no that either hum. I suppose this is not accurate either. But you know I would still use it as a tool because it is a way to show someone what Christ has done for us and how we all fall short. Did you see the movie or did you just read the review?

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  90. It should have been noted that the "Hollywood" version of NOAH was banned in a number of Muslim countries simply because (among other things) it depicts an Islamic prophet (Noah). So, the whole argument that Hollywood is out to purposefully blaspheme God is a bit of wash. Hollywood is an equal opportunity offender.

    But that's a good thing. If you spend your entire life not offended by something, then you're living a rather uneventful life.

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  91. I agree with you and appreciate you writing this. :)

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  92. Great post. Thank you for sharing. So many people are falling astray to false doctrines. It's refreshing to read a voice of reason.

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  93. Mindy at Grateful for GraceApril 22, 2014 at 12:31 PM

    Great article. I have not been brave enough to call out these women to other women, who seem to set them in a place of idolatry. Sigh. I'm glad you're willing. May it give me courage to do so.

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  94. This is not only a thought provoking article but has been well articulated, I thank you for standing up for what you feel is truth, especially in a these days when many Christians are silent.

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  95. I think men choose to learn from them and submit to their teaching. I think that is different than a women being put into a position over a man. I don't think its fair to blame these ladies for this.

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  96. I agree. You say in paragraph three your intent is not to demonize, but your tone from the start is not consistent with that goal. Perhaps, more prayer and personal seeking of God's will for how you pursued this critique could have avoided such an unloving (in tone, not necessarily content) evaluation. I agree with the content, not the manner.

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  97. Hi there precious sister Carly, I think you'd agree that tone is subjective, since writing has none (unless there are exclamation points and such). I'm sure the tone I use while reading this is quite different than the one you read it in, If you read this in an unloving tone. And I agree with your advice to pray and seek God's will...I did...through His Word (1 John 5:3).


    "Better is open rebuke than hidden love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend; profuse are the kisses of an enemy." ~Proverbs 27:5-6

    I think John MacArthur put it best when he said:

    "Peace is wisdom in action and is never established at the expense of righteousness.

    "Being a biblical peacemaker has its price. You can expect to upset unbelievers who openly oppose God's Word as well as believers who compromise its truth for the sake of maintaining "peace" among people of differing doctrinal persuasions. Some will call you narrow-minded and divisive for dealing with controversial issues. Some will misunderstand your motives or even attack you personally. But that's been the path of every true peacemaker-- including our Lord Himself. Take heart and be faithful. Your efforts to bring peace show that you are a child of God." ~John MacArthur

    http://www.gty.org/resources/devotionals/drawing-near#.U1bGGbvgDk4



    Peace be with you sister.

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  98. Ha, ha...I like your metaphor. Perfect! Thanks for sharing your thoughts Ashley. You're a blessing. :o)

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  99. It is the fault of any woman who attends a conference and takes the pulpit before a group of men and women. It's different if it's a women's conference and guys show up for whatever reason, but to knowingly speak and teach at a conference that's for men and women is a sin.

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  100. Thank you Katy. Please share this truth with others so that they too are not carried away by various unbiblical teaching.

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  101. Thank you Alix, it's always nice to "meet" other like-minded, biblically-based believers. We're very few these days.

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  102. Hi there sweet Mindy, I will pray for you sister. I won't lie, it's tough. As you can see, from the comments here, you'll have to be prepared to get most of you "attacks" from other professing Christians rather than from those in the world...because what do they care about God's holiness and righteousness?


    But be of good heart and take courage sister, the Lord will be with you just as He has been with me through this and also with all the faithful saints of old and the few that are still faithful to God's call to walk the narrow road towards holiness. :o)

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  103. Thank you precious sister Jane. I was in tears when I read these recent comments. It's a special blessing and joy to me to be able to love and serve our Lord Jesus and those He came to save. It's so nice to "meet" another like-minded, biblically-based sister. :o)

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  104. Sarah Calentine StinnettApril 22, 2014 at 4:56 PM

    I have to say - if you truly just want to warn about this then why have you left the comments open for people to gossip, argue, teardown and harm - seems if you were truly wanting to warn you would not facilitate harmful discussion.

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  105. Hello, Sunny! I didn't even realize this article was written by you until I got to the comments! I don't know if you remember me, but I was in your Proverbs 31 online Bible study a few years ago. I hope you are doing well. I will have to bookmark your page!

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  106. That is my question. It was asked earlier and not answered.

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  107. Very interesting article. I have always thought it strange that there is a pop Christian culture that has popular authors, musicians, etc. I find most of them follow an emotionally, feel good way of reaching people, where everyone can sing kumbaya and feel like they know what God is really like without any real searching or challenge. I have to admit I have read Jesus Calling and 1000 Gifts. I wasn't really impressed with Ann Voskamp's wistful writing. I have found some of the ideas of Jesus Calling ok but it's the scriptures themselves that really spoke volumes.
    The whole point to my rambling? Read the bible and seek God. Lean not on thine own understanding or in this case the understanding of others.

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  108. Melissa Primm HatfieldApril 22, 2014 at 5:41 PM

    Personally, I think there can be a danger if we exalt anyone, even our Pastor to a deity level. Do I follow Beth Moore? Yes! Do I think she has some great things to say? Yes! But I have listened to enough of her teachings and read her books to know that she prays and seeks God's guidance. Did she seek out this ministry? No! God speaks to anyone that spends time in His word and spends time in prayer. The emotion you are talking about can only be understood from people who have gone through the same thing or something similar as Beth Moore has. But the important thing is she is trying to direct people back to God and a personal relationship with him through prayer and Bible Study. When you totally take the emotion away like we Baptists have done because we did not want to be associated with this or that movement or Church then you are taking away what makes us human. I am not saying that she does everything right. If men sit in her audience she doesn't have control over that. Her private sessions on video never had men present when she went to Israel. I do not know about the Passion Conference or these other 2 ladies that you are using to lump into one basket. But what I do know is that those videos are on a paid basis and if they are taken to mean other than what they were intended for to bring people closer to God, then she would be wise to remove them. After all she is human and if made the mistake of being what is said, then she would want to do the right thing.

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  109. Hmmm...be careful Sarah, you're dangerously close to committing the sin of erroneously judging the intentions of my heart. Unless you have Scriptural evidence of a sin I'm committing, please keep your tearing down opinions of me to yourself.

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  110. Oh my goodness! Hi Summer! Yes, I remember you! So good to "see" you again sister! What a blessing to reconnect with you. ♥ Also, if you go to the bottom left of my site, you can subscribe to receive emails whenever I post new articles. :o)

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  111. It's not about being human Melissa, it's about realizing that as a teacher of the Word, we are held at a higher standard not to teach heresy (false doctrine) which Beth Moore does as she claims to have direct, extra-biblical revelations as well as continually takes God's Word out of His context and tries to cram it into whatever point she's trying to make.


    Having emotions is not an issue here. It's using emotions to draw people away from sound teaching (as God commands us not to do).


    As for her teaching over men. As a woman she should only agree to speak at women's conferences. If men attend, that's their deal. But to knowingly agree to speak at a conference for both men and women is sinful.

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  112. Interested in more of your view on women teaching at mixed gender conferences. Are you familiar with Elyse Fitzpatrick (author of Comforts from the Cross and Because He Loves Me) and her lectures/speeches at the Liberate Conference (Carol Ridge Presbyterian/Tullian Tchivijian)? It is a conference primarily attended by men, so I'm wondering if that makes her a false teacher/heretic in your viewpoint. Elyse's theology, unlike Beth Moore (not too familiar with her ministry so I'll go with your judgment), seems very sound and orthodox.

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  113. Hi Emily, good question. I am familiar with Elyse Fitzpatrick, but not an expert on her works. As far as I know, she's sound and not a heretic or false teacher. If she speaks at a conference where men and women both attend, as long as she's not taking a teaching role (like Beth Moore does), but rather shares her testimony or something similar, it is not sinful. However, if she's taking the stage as one of the teachers, then in accordance with God's Word, though not a false teacher, she would be in sin for doing such a thing (1 Tim 2:11-14). All this is done to keep God's order of authority, peace and unity within the body of Christ.

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  114. Sarah Calentine StinnettApril 22, 2014 at 9:47 PM

    I was absolutely not judging motives! I commented because I don't think this "conversation online" is building up to the body of Christ and just as you are warning - I am giving a warning - LOVE for each other is what should make us stand out from the world - bashing and picking apart other peoples work doesn't seem to be loving to me - alot of what people are criticizing is Ann's writing style - so I encourage you - stand on God's Word and in LOVE - warn and confront.

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  115. Actually Sarah, you were judging my motives. Please read your comment again where you say "if you truly just want to warn..." You're assertion is that IF my motives were pure, then I would do things the way you see fit, which is hypocritical judgment that Christ commands us not to do in Matt 7:5.

    What I have done here and so have many who've commented (sharing their opinion about a writing style, by the way, is not gossiping), is the biblical mandate God has given us to judge those inside the church (1 Cor 5:12-13) with righteous judgment, that is, the Word of God (2 Tim 3:16-17, John 7:23-24) and expose false teachings (1 Tim 6:3-5).


    Please read all the Scripture references I shared here before responding so that we don't sin by quarreling over words and opinions, but that all things are done in a fitting manner as unto the Lord (2 Tim 2:14-17, 24-25).

    Also, this article may be helpful to you: http://www.sunnyshell.org/2010/02/to-judge-or-not-to-judge.html

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  116. Sunny, thank you for posting this. As a pastor I need to know what our women are studying. You make the comment,

    "She now presumptuously claims that God gives her extra-biblical revelations. Strangely enough, as I searched to share video clips I once saw just a few months back, I noticed that all the videos displaying the heresy straight from the horses mouth were all deleted and none but this audio clip can be found (which is audio from 2 years ago)"

    Is it possible that she deleted them because she has changed her view on this, or was being misunderstood? Do you have any current research i.e. quotes from her books, sessions, studies, articles, website - any hard evidence where she purports extra biblical revelation?



    If you would be wiling to do current (recent publications) and detailed (this book, this page) research on Beth Moore it would be a great blessing for myself and many other pastors.

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